Slavic origin. Paleo-Slavic cultures and alphabets.

Speculations and facts.
Much has been speculated over the years about the Slavs and their orginin. Problem is that the facts have been often intentionally turned on their heads by various German-speaking 'historians', whose purpose was to 'prove' their own 'superiority' and inferiority of everybody else.

Historical documents and linguistic studies prove that Slavs are the direct descendants of the Veneti, the founders of Venice, Viena, and the people who have created the amber route and dominated the amber trade for over a thousand years. Historically they are also known as Enetoi and have inhabited the entire region of Balkans, north of Greece, Northern Itally, Hungary, Romania, Austria, Bavaria, Northern Switzerland, Czech and Slovak Repulics Poland and central Germany all the way to today's Hamburg. The Slavs have inhabited this region since about 1500 B.C., and inhabit about 75 percent of that region to this day. From this core area they have spread eastwards to Belarus, Ukraine and Russia. Other Venetic Slavs have migrated westwards to central Italy, where they have been known as the Etruskans, the founders of Rome. 

Around the 4th century A.D. started so called migrations of nations, which have been triggered by the desertification of the areas between the Aral sea and Mongolia. This climatic catastrophy had triggered off several waves of migrations of the nomadic Turkic peoples.

At different times, in different centuries, several waves of invasions of the migrating Turkic nomads have invaded today's Germany, Estonia, Hungary, Finland, Bulgaria and Turkey. In some areas they have been assimilated by the local population or have at least partly adapted the local Venetic-Slavic languages. In other areas, such as Hungary, Turkey and Finland, their languages have prevailed.

The terror of the nomadic migrations has inspired some Venetic Slavs from the eastern regions to re-migrate to the western areas and blend with the local population. This re-migrations of the Venetic Slavs from the eastern regions, from the terror of primitive Turkic hunters, back to their original homeland was often mistakenly misinterpreted as the Slav migration.

The writing of the Venetic Slavs gave rise to today's Latin and Greek alphabets, has been copied into Futhark runes, and eventually also the Cyrillic script.

In centuries prior to their north-eastern spread to Ukraine, Belarus and Russia, the Venetic Slavs have inhabited also large parts of Anatolia and have founded Troya, a major trading city of the Mediterannean. The trading skills the Venetic Slavs have aquired during the rise and the golden age of Troya, they have later used during the development of the famous Amber Route of Europe and in founding of Venice. After the destruciton of Troya, Venice has become a new major trading port and city of the Mediterannean.

In different regions and in different centuries the Veneti Slavs have been known under different names: Veneti, Etruscans, Euganei, Eneti, Enetoi, Enetii, Henetoi, Phrygians, Brigi, Venden, Lycians, Lydians, Macedonians, Ostrogoths, Vandals, etc. Today they are called Slavs.

The Venetic writing is based directly on the Sumerian cuneiform writing and has given rise to the Greek, Roman, Cyrillic, Futhark, Runes and other alphabets.

To this day indigenous Slavs living in central Germany, near Berlin, in the path of one of the Amber Routes, are referred to by the Germans as Venden (Wenden).

Slavic Phrigians (Phrygians), dominated Anatolia (present-day Turkey) until about 600 BC. Their language is clearly Slavic: Gordum (Phrygian), Grod (Slovio), Town (English).

The ultimate origin of Indoeuropean Veneti-Slavs is Iran, from where they migrated first to Mesopotamia, where they invented the Elamite and Cuneiform writings, after that they moved to Anatolia (As Phrygians or Eneti...) and finally they spread throughout Europe, from northern Italy, through the Balkans, Austria, Bavaria, Switzerland, Germany, Poland all the way to Belarus, Ukraine and Russia.

Ostrogoths, Vandals.

Tribes of Veneti Slavs called Vandals, have "vandalized" Rome, destroyed the Roman empire and finally through France and Spain travelled to Africa where they have settled on the shores of the Mediterrannean in today's Tunisia and Libya. The graphic depicts a Veneti-Vandal symbol for 'the hands of god'.

The home of the Vandals (and Ostrogoths) was the area between southern Poland and northern Serbia. The migration of Vandal Slavic warriors from central Europe through Bavaria, France and Spain into Africa has made all Slavs more susceptible to subsequent invasions both from the west and from the east and marks the beginning of the break-up of the Veneti empire.

About the Ostrogoth (Vandal) culture we find very little concrete information only various guesses, mostly by Germanic scientists who assume, because of the Roman name "Ostrogoths" that they were in some ways related to "Goths and Visigoths". The problem lies in the Roman names, since to the Romans all the tribes who were not speaking Latin were "Goths" and then they subdivided them into various subgroups such as Ostrogoths (Slavs). Visigoths, etc.

In a similar way the Greeks called all tribes and peoples which were non-greek speaking "Barbarians", and the Slavs called non-Slavic speaking tribes (specifically Germanic tribes) as "Nemtsi" which means "the dumb ones".

To find the proof that Ostrogoths (including Vandals) were Slavs we just have to look at the typically Slavic names of their leaders. While the language of the Ostrogoths is still shrouded in mystery (maybe on purpose since Germanic researchers don't want to admit that they were Slavs), and since also their writing is also shrouded in a similar "mystery", one thing that is not shrouded and which had remained to this day are the Slavic names of their leaders. Here are just a few names of the Ostrogoth / Vandal leaders and dynasties: Valamir, Theodemir, Theodoric, Athalaric, Eraric, Geiseric, Gunderic, Hilderic, Gelimir, etc. Furthermore the name Vandals is no doubt related to the Venden (Wenden) which are aboriginal population of Veneti-Slavs living to this day in central Germany. To Slavic researchers the Venden (Wenden) are known as Sorbs.

What is also interesting are the Roman sources which claim that Ostrogoths (Slavs) have come from Phrygia, which only confirms the previously stated information that Phrygians (also called Brigs) were Slavs. So while Visigoths were most likely Germanic tribes, Ostrogoths were Slavs. The confusion comes only from the common name of 'Goths' given to all non-Romans by the Romans. After clearing up the name confusion and confirming that 'Ostrogoths' were Slavs, then the entire history of Slavs and of the Veneti empire becomes more clear. Before the emigration of the Vandals from the Danubian basin into north Africa, Visigoths (probably proto-Germans) have been marginalized in the area on the North Sea, between the Veneti settlements and Holland.

Venetic and other paleo-Slavic alphabets.
As active traders the venetis had a need for writing, to keep track of goods and trades. Unfortunately most of their writing was on wood or bark and with time has rotted away or burned.

Here are several Venetic alphabets which have survived to this day. Please note since Venetic has been written both from right to left and from left to right, they also had two mirror images of their writing. Here we present the alphabets which were used for writing left to right and thus are closer and more comparable to todays alphabets. (left-to-right mirror image)





Most notable feature of the Veneti-Slavic alphabets is the lack of the letter F. F is expressed indirectly, as two letters: VH = F. This is another proof that this is a proto-Slavic language, since in the proto-Slavic language there wasn't any F-sound.

Sample of a closely related Phrygian inscription:
(right-to-left mirror image)


Sample of closely related Etruscan inscription:
(lines 1+3 = right-to-left mirror image, lines 2+4 left-to-right mirror image)


Other info: www.ancientscripts.com

Cyrilic and Glagolic alphabets: Which is older?
Here is a paper, written in Slovak, which speculates whether or not Cyrillic alphabet is older than Glagolic.

Genetic origin: World Haplogroups.
This map shows genetic make up of Slavic populations and the typical Slavic genes. See also:

Medieval Slavic:
Here is a Slavic religious manuscript originating in the ninth or tenth century, found in today's Bavaria. It was written in an old Slavic variant, closely related to Slovene, using the Latin alphabet. This manuscript is known as 'Brizxinski Spomeniki' or as 'Freising Manuscripts'.


Varous links:
www.angelfire.com/country/veneti/ToulaevAncestors.html
www.veneti.info/en/venetipedia/historical-quotes
www.korenine.si/zborniki/zbornik01/htm/pantelic.htm
www.paabo.ca/uirala/veneti.html
encyclopedia.jrank.org/PAI_PAS/PAPHLAGONIA.html
marava.sgo.sk


Secret History of the Slavs

2 samples of closely related Lydian alphabet (right-to-left mirror image):

Sample of Lycian alphabet (left-to-right mirror image):

Venetic script used in northern Europe, also known as FUTHARK (left-to-right mirror image):

This is a proto-Elamite writing:

The Veneti-Slavic writing and the various other variants presented here probably ultimately developed from the Elamite writing. Elam is an area on the north-eastern shores of the Persian gulf. Elamite (pre-Slavic) writing has originated about 7 or 8 thousand years BC. On this page we present a few samples of Elamite writing which bears resemblance to the Venetic slavic writing and which appears to have evolved into the Venetic and other paleo-Slavic alphabets. Since paleo-Slavic cultures have been based on and around wood, rather than clay and clay tablets, most of the paleo-Slavic documents have not survived to this day and have been eithe burned or rotted away.

This is a sample of a later so-called linear Elamite writing:

Here is informaiton about genetic anthropology and about possible genetic origins of the Slavs:
http://www.duerinck.com/migrate.html
Slavic anthropology: http://www.slavanthro.org
dienekes.blogspot.com/2007/03/origin-of-slavs-in-ukraine.html

VENETI: ANCESTORS OF SLAVS, by Pavel V. Toulaev, Moscow, Russia

The core of the discussion around the Veneti (Enetoi, Venethi, Vendi) is in the answer to the question of whether they had been Slavs or not. Western scholars, Germans and Italians in particular, believe that Veneti having ancient roots, had not been Slavs, since the latter stepped on the historic stage only in the VI-th century A.D., when they took part in the destruction of the Roman Empire and got onto the pages of the Byzantine chronicles. The majority of the Slavic authors tend to regard Veneti as their ancient ancestors, although this point of view is not always well-grounded and is not shared by all scholars.

On the basis of historic facts and conclusions in scientific literature we can reconstruct in more detail the picture of the Venetic world starting from ancient times. Chronologically it may be divided into the following major stages.

Before 1200 B.C., the data of the Trojan War, the Enetoi, mentioned by Homerus [Homer] and later by Strabon [Strabo] and other ancient authors, lived in Troas [city/area near ancient Troy] and Paphlagonia. They descend to Dardanus [Dardanelles or Hellespont], Ilus [Ilium or Troy] and Pilemen which manifested itself in the contacts of the Western regions of Asia Minor with Thracia and Illyria.

1200 - VII century B.C. After the collapse of Troy and the Hittite Empire the Enetoi headed by Antenor first moved to Thracia and then to the northern coast of the Adriatic. The fellow-tribesmen of Enei (Aineias)[Aeneas], the main hero of the "Eneide" [Aeneid] by Vergilius [Vergil] and the legendary founder of Rome, colonized the western part of the Apennine peninsula. The civilization of Ethruscs [Etruscans] also appeared in that area. At the same time there was a migration of Paphlagonian Enetoi to Urartu, which comprised the Kingdom of Van.

VI - I centuries B.C. After the collapse of the Tarquinius Dynasty the Ethruscan [Etruscan] center shifted to the region of Ethruria [Etruria]. In that period the Adriatic Venice, described by many authors including Herodotos [Herodotus] and Tacitus, witnessed a formation of the union of towns with developed trade and culture. The Adriatic Veneti set out to follow the Amber Route alongside with many others. The Route led from the Mediterranean to the Baltic Sea via the Alps and Noricum in particular.

I - IV A.D. The Veneti occupied a vast territory: from central Europe (evidenced by Plinius [Pliny], Ptolemaeus [Ptolemy], Julius Caesar) to the north-western coast of the Baltic sea, which was called Venetian by the contemporaries. To the east of the Danube in that period of time there came the tribe of Antes, which was related to western Veneti according to the Goths historian Jordan. The Antes moved from the South Bug to the mid-stream of the Dniepr [Dnieper].

V - VI century. Involved in the total movement of the Barbarians (Alans and Huns) and in the union with the related Slavic tribes (Sclavens) they intruded into the Roman Empire. They subjugated Illyricum, Northern Italy and conquered Rome. These events are described in detail by Procopius and other Byzantine historians. The tribe of the Vandals, related to Antes and Vendi and headed by Slavic and Germanic chiefs, moved further to the West, passed in military action through Spain and founded the Kingdom of Vandals in Northern Africa.

VII - IX c. The Slavs, called Veneti, Vendi or simply Veni by Germans and Finns, set up their own towns and princedoms on the vast plains of Europe: from the Alpine meadows along the Danube to the forests and steppes of the East-European Plain. The state alliance of Karantanians [Carantanians], Checks [Czechs], Moraves [Moravians] and Sorbs (the middle of VII century) headed by the leader Samo was Slavic in its nature and disintegrated under the onslaught of Germans. The Baltic Slavs headed by Varangian Rurik imposed their authority in Novgorod and Kiev Russia inhabited by Slovens, Polens, Krivichi, Vyatichi and other related tribes.

X - XII c. The Venetic civilization also developed on the southern coast of the Baltic inhabited by Pomors (Pomerans)[Pomeranians] Varii and Rugi. There appeared large religious centers (Arkona, Rhetra) and flourishing trade towns such as Volin (Vinetta) Stargrad, Szczecin. The whole region became known as Vindland. The Pomorian [Pomeranian] Veneti had constant wars with Germans and the latter won the victory over them and destroyed their Slavic towns.

XIII - XV c. The Germanic princes in alliance with Catholic Rome established their supremacy in Central Europe. While militant monastic orders attacked Poland, Prussia and Lithuania from the west, Tatars and nomads ravaged Russian princedoms from the east. After the collapse of the Golden Horde and the conquering of the Orthodox Constantinople (Tzargrad) by Muslim Turks, there started a fight for hegemony over the Slavic world.

>From the methodological point of view the following issues of vital importance have been cleared up. The Veneti lived originally in Europe. In the course of centuries they repeatedly moved from different places of settlement to others, retaining the principle of the tribal system. The Veneti were ancestors of some ancient civilizations, presumably Vinca, Aratta or legendary Hiperborea [Hyperborea] with its cults of the Olympic gods Zeus, Leto, Apollo, Artemide and also the ancestors of Ethrusc-Pelasgs. In the Bronze Age they already had developed religion, culture and economy. In the process of expansion the Veneti founded city-colonies (Troy, Rome, Venice, Vinetta) at the periphery of the Proto-Slavic world. The colonizer possessed a developed culture traceable by its artistic reflection in the images of such heroes as Enei, Orpheus, Sadko, Veinemeinen.

Veneti are not modern Slavs but our ancient ancestors. And they are the ones from whom the genealogical line of the Slavs stems in its metahistorical aspect. The Veneti are neither Celts, nor Goths, Scythes, Germans, Scandinavians, Greeks, Phoenicians or any other but an independent historic community. This statement is of vital importance since we infer the ancestor Slavs were in no way "Indo-Europeans" or "Euroasians". From the anthropological point of view they were Europeids, subjects of the white race and bearers of its civilization. A more ancient community could have existed V-VI thousand years B.C. or even earlier, and Protoslavs had their own identity then as well.

It is only natural that in the course of centuries our ancestors mixed with neighbouring tribes and were exposed to influence. Dynastic marriages also presupposed mixing of different blood strains. The name of Veneti implied most likely different ethnoses in different historic epochs. This does not mean that they were not related or had no continuity. The name of Veneti has survived up to now alongside with many features of the given community. We cannot deny that the processes degradation and degeneration did take place but that doesn't mean that we should neglect our Venetic inheritance.

Slavic renaissance calls for conscientious assimilation of all its spiritual and cultural wealth. Further studies of the Veneti will be more accurate. We are going to research every fact differentially applying new methods of comparative culture study, semiotics, linguistics, anthropology and genetics. We will differentiate between the name of the ethnos and its bearer, the ethnos and the language, the language and anthropology, one epoch and another. We will pursue our road of lovingly learning our deep-rooted ancestry.

The treasures of the Veneti will have their say.

Macedonias have always been Slavs, never Greeks:
According to the information in this video Phrygians (Brygians), Paphlagonians, Veneti and ancient Macedonians are in fact the same people. They are just different names for the ancestors of modern Macedonians and of all Slavs. According to the Roman historian Quintus Curtius Rufus, Veneti from Paphlagonia fought in the army of Alexander the Great. If you draw a circle of a 300km radius centered on today's Ankara you will get the approximate area covering ancient Phrygia and Paphlagonia.

The First Bulgarian Empire (source: wikipedia)

The First Bulgarian Empire (Parvo Balgarsko Tsarstvo) was a medieval Bulgarian state founded in AD 632 in the lands near the Danube Delta and disintegrated in AD 1018 after its annexation to the Byzantine Empire. At the height of its power it spread between Budapest and the Black Sea and from the Dnieper river in modern Ukraine to the Adriatic. It was succeeded by the Second Bulgarian Empire, established in 1185. The official name of the country since its very foundation was Bulgaria.

The Empire played a major role in European politics was one of the strongest military powers of its time. In 717-718 the coalition of Byzantines and Bulgarians decisively defeated the Arabs in the siege of Constantinople thus saving Eastern Europe from the Muslim threat and later destroyed the Avar Khanate expanding its territory to the Pannonian Plain and the Tatra Mountains. Bulgaria served as an effective shield against the constant invasions of nomadic peoples from the east in the so called second wave of the Great Migration. Pechenegs and Cumans were stopped in north-eastern Bulgaria and after a decisive victory over the Magyars in 896 they were forced to retreate to an permanently settle down in Pannonia.

To the south in course of the Byzantine-Bulgarian Wars the Bulgarians incorporated most of Slavic-populated region of Thrace and Macedonia. After the annihilation of the Byzantine army in the battle of Anchialus in 917 the Byzantine Empire was on the edge of destruction.

The Bulgars brought new construction and battle techniques to Europe. The first Bulgarian cities were made of large monolith stones unlike the Roman brick-build fortresses. With an area of 27 km2 the capital Pliska was among the largest towns in Europe. The Inner town had a sewerage and floor heating long before cities such as Paris and London. After the adoption of Christianity in 864 Bulgaria became the cultural center of Slavic Europe. Its leading cultural position was further consolidated with the invention of the Cyrillic alphabet in Preslav, which some credit to the Bulgarian scholar Clement of Ohrid. According to some historians the schools of Preslav and Ohrid were the second universities in Europe after the University of Constantinople.

Macedonia archeologists uncover 4,000 year old writing

Uncovered are the first traces of the old Macedonian language in the country, says "Dr. Dushko Aleksovski, paleolinguistics professor and honorary president of the World Rock Art Academy.

"This is a very rare artifact, the name of the Goddess Vesta is written on it. However, the first written name is Bsefa, which later became Vesta. This is the oldest artifact written in the old Macedonian language discovered on our territory." says Dr. Aleksovski.

The 4,000 year old signs written on the lid of the clay artifact, according to Dr. Aleksovski, are considered as a monumental discovery, first of its kind and very important for the paleolinguistics.

The discovery was made in central Macedonia, the precise location is being kept secret by the Government so the area doesn't get over run by archeological poachers looking for treasures and artifacts. //2008-12-29

source: http://macedoniaonline.eu/

Slavic ethnogenesis by Mario Alinei
http://my.opera.com/ancientmacedonia/blog/show.dml/462535

More links:
http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novoslov%C4%9Bn%C5%A1tina#Pravopis_a_v.C3.BDslovnost
http://sloveneti.tripod.com/veg/e/Etr/EtrLang-Intro_e.html#many_etr_words_recg_by_slavs

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